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		<title>By: Konstantin Mirin</title>
		<link>http://programmersnotes.info/2009/05/22/netbeans-65-for-php-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Konstantin Mirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It supports Git :) I think functionality of Netbeans is OK for every day PHP development. But sure, there are things that are not in there :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It supports Git <img src='http://programmersnotes.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I think functionality of Netbeans is OK for every day PHP development. But sure, there are things that are not in there <img src='http://programmersnotes.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SowingSadness</title>
		<link>http://programmersnotes.info/2009/05/22/netbeans-65-for-php-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>SowingSadness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NetBeans dosen&#039;t support:
 - Mylyn analog.
 - Git.
 - and more...more...more</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NetBeans dosen&#8217;t support:<br />
 &#8211; Mylyn analog.<br />
 &#8211; Git.<br />
 &#8211; and more&#8230;more&#8230;more</p>
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		<title>By: James from FaceySpacey.com</title>
		<link>http://programmersnotes.info/2009/05/22/netbeans-65-for-php-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>James from FaceySpacey.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 11:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aptana Cloud&#039;s automated/simplified deployment solutions that work in concert with Aptana Studio really are powerful. It&#039;s too bad that Aptana Studio (the IDE) isn&#039;t as good as Netbeans and Zend Studio. I wonder what the best solution is to get functionality like Netbean&#039;s Diff tool in Aptana (just switch back and forth between programs)??? What&#039;s the best way to stay in Aptana, but get some of the goodies of the other tools?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aptana Cloud&#8217;s automated/simplified deployment solutions that work in concert with Aptana Studio really are powerful. It&#8217;s too bad that Aptana Studio (the IDE) isn&#8217;t as good as Netbeans and Zend Studio. I wonder what the best solution is to get functionality like Netbean&#8217;s Diff tool in Aptana (just switch back and forth between programs)??? What&#8217;s the best way to stay in Aptana, but get some of the goodies of the other tools?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Kaland</title>
		<link>http://programmersnotes.info/2009/05/22/netbeans-65-for-php-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Kaland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been on an IDE hunt lately because for various reasons I started using Linux for my testing environment (PHP just executes a lot faster than WAMP on a Windows XP VM...)

Anyway, on Windows, my definitive PHP IDE of choice is phpDesigner. It just keeps getting better. If you don&#039;t mind paying a bit, it&#039;s a GOOD BUY. I would upgrade mine if I wasn&#039;t currently using Linux. The developer is a nice guy too.

On Linux, I started with Eclipse, but PDT was slow on my 1GB-RAM Ubuntu VM. It&#039;s unfortunate, because it had all the features I wanted. I can&#039;t get by with characters taking a second each to appear though.

So I went to the latest Netbeans 6.7. Better, overall, some really nice features, but the debugging wasn&#039;t the way I liked (I don&#039;t want it to open a browser for me - I want to connect my own browser from another computer). The code completion also lacked intelligence in some areas. For better or worse, code completion and syntax highlighting are probably THE biggest features I want in an IDE.

So I tried Aptana. A bit better, but still weak on the code completion when I needed it. I might go back to it if they improve this part...it was pretty sweet, a lot nicer at the moment than PDT except for the dodgy code completion. I heard they&#039;re contributing  some of their PHP plugin code to PDT. I can&#039;t wait; Aptana actually has decent word wrap. So I may need to check this out again.

But anyway, I was at my wit&#039;s end. I supposed it was time to go back to Windows. I had to pull a couple Bazaar branches (my VCS) from my Linux image before I could do that, though, so I figured hey, I keep reading about Vim as a PHP IDE - sounds crazy, but why not give it a shot? So I got down to it...and lo and behold, it actually does the job alright. Takes a little bit to set up, but there&#039;s good documentation, and it&#039;s customizable in all the right ways. A breath of fresh air for a programmer, and my customizations should be usable cross-platform with minimal effort - a nice thought.

I&#039;m still deciding if I&#039;m going to stay with Vim or not - maybe I&#039;ll try one of those IDEs that integrate it as the editor - but it&#039;s actually pretty cool and works for me for the moment.

Hope to read more about your IDE search...

Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been on an IDE hunt lately because for various reasons I started using Linux for my testing environment (PHP just executes a lot faster than WAMP on a Windows XP VM&#8230;)</p>
<p>Anyway, on Windows, my definitive PHP IDE of choice is phpDesigner. It just keeps getting better. If you don&#8217;t mind paying a bit, it&#8217;s a GOOD BUY. I would upgrade mine if I wasn&#8217;t currently using Linux. The developer is a nice guy too.</p>
<p>On Linux, I started with Eclipse, but PDT was slow on my 1GB-RAM Ubuntu VM. It&#8217;s unfortunate, because it had all the features I wanted. I can&#8217;t get by with characters taking a second each to appear though.</p>
<p>So I went to the latest Netbeans 6.7. Better, overall, some really nice features, but the debugging wasn&#8217;t the way I liked (I don&#8217;t want it to open a browser for me &#8211; I want to connect my own browser from another computer). The code completion also lacked intelligence in some areas. For better or worse, code completion and syntax highlighting are probably THE biggest features I want in an IDE.</p>
<p>So I tried Aptana. A bit better, but still weak on the code completion when I needed it. I might go back to it if they improve this part&#8230;it was pretty sweet, a lot nicer at the moment than PDT except for the dodgy code completion. I heard they&#8217;re contributing  some of their PHP plugin code to PDT. I can&#8217;t wait; Aptana actually has decent word wrap. So I may need to check this out again.</p>
<p>But anyway, I was at my wit&#8217;s end. I supposed it was time to go back to Windows. I had to pull a couple Bazaar branches (my VCS) from my Linux image before I could do that, though, so I figured hey, I keep reading about Vim as a PHP IDE &#8211; sounds crazy, but why not give it a shot? So I got down to it&#8230;and lo and behold, it actually does the job alright. Takes a little bit to set up, but there&#8217;s good documentation, and it&#8217;s customizable in all the right ways. A breath of fresh air for a programmer, and my customizations should be usable cross-platform with minimal effort &#8211; a nice thought.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still deciding if I&#8217;m going to stay with Vim or not &#8211; maybe I&#8217;ll try one of those IDEs that integrate it as the editor &#8211; but it&#8217;s actually pretty cool and works for me for the moment.</p>
<p>Hope to read more about your IDE search&#8230;</p>
<p>Kevin</p>
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		<title>By: Konstantin Mirin</title>
		<link>http://programmersnotes.info/2009/05/22/netbeans-65-for-php-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Konstantin Mirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it should cache the large project tree. On the other hand, when you add something from outside (e.g. using explorer instead of NB), this file is shown immediately.
But I agree there is possible to find some good solution for effective caching. Hope there will be one in NetBeans 7 :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it should cache the large project tree. On the other hand, when you add something from outside (e.g. using explorer instead of NB), this file is shown immediately.<br />
But I agree there is possible to find some good solution for effective caching. Hope there will be one in NetBeans 7 <img src='http://programmersnotes.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Thành Đạt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thành Đạt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am using Netbeans in my daily PHP works, everything is cool.
But one thing I don&#039;t like in Netbeans, when I add a large project, it scanning prj is very slow, and daily I open Netbeans, it scan again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am using Netbeans in my daily PHP works, everything is cool.<br />
But one thing I don&#8217;t like in Netbeans, when I add a large project, it scanning prj is very slow, and daily I open Netbeans, it scan again.</p>
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		<title>By: Konstantin Mirin</title>
		<link>http://programmersnotes.info/2009/05/22/netbeans-65-for-php-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Konstantin Mirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zend products are better, but they are not free, that is the problem.

Re: debugger. Have you tried searching a bug in a complex framework? I do this regularly and I asure you - debugger makes my life easier :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zend products are better, but they are not free, that is the problem.</p>
<p>Re: debugger. Have you tried searching a bug in a complex framework? I do this regularly and I asure you &#8211; debugger makes my life easier <img src='http://programmersnotes.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PDT or ZDE for eclipse is very good.
actually ,ZDE for eclipse is best. the problem is it is not free.
if you wish,you also can try php for visual studio on windows platform.
for now ,Zend was released Zend Debugger ,it&#039;s better than Xdebug.
but i am against to use debug in PHP. in my mind ,it&#039;s needn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PDT or ZDE for eclipse is very good.<br />
actually ,ZDE for eclipse is best. the problem is it is not free.<br />
if you wish,you also can try php for visual studio on windows platform.<br />
for now ,Zend was released Zend Debugger ,it&#8217;s better than Xdebug.<br />
but i am against to use debug in PHP. in my mind ,it&#8217;s needn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Konstantin Mirin</title>
		<link>http://programmersnotes.info/2009/05/22/netbeans-65-for-php-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Konstantin Mirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 05:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard PDT is slower, than NetBeans. I wanted to try it, even before installing NB, but I had problems with installing it from eclipse environment and didn&#039;t have lots of time to look into this. So I gave up. Maybe I&#039;ll try your variant when I have time. If so - I&#039;ll definitely write my feedback on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard PDT is slower, than NetBeans. I wanted to try it, even before installing NB, but I had problems with installing it from eclipse environment and didn&#8217;t have lots of time to look into this. So I gave up. Maybe I&#8217;ll try your variant when I have time. If so &#8211; I&#8217;ll definitely write my feedback on this.</p>
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		<title>By: jz</title>
		<link>http://programmersnotes.info/2009/05/22/netbeans-65-for-php-my-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>jz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 01:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Eclipse with Aptana+Spket+PDT+(couple other plugins) for web development. It&#039;s very well configurable and plugable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Eclipse with Aptana+Spket+PDT+(couple other plugins) for web development. It&#8217;s very well configurable and plugable.</p>
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